• tino_408@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    I’m confused why people are mad about this? I just seen a clip 10 min ago on NBC of Venezuela cheering

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      4 days ago

      You are confused why it is deeply troubling for an unhinged leader to unilaterally, outside the law of his own country, conduct a military operation to abduct another world leader on a clearly nonsensical basis, after a campaign of arbitrarily murdering fishing boats on a similarly flimsy basis? Really? This fucking confuses you? Are you a child or just a moron?

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        3 days ago

        What you call a world leader others call a dictator. And you pretending this is the first time we took down a disgusting dictator like him proves your the fucking moron. Your to wrapped up in team blue vs team red to realize Maduro is a dictator since 2013. Yea 2013 that’s how long. You dumb fucks go from supporting no kings into supporting a literal king. Make this make since and stop getting so butt hurt cause someone asks valid questions

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          3 days ago

          Everyone is aware Maduro sucks. If you do not understand why the manner in which his removal was done is deeply problematic, and you’re trying to tie it to somehow supporting antiauthoritarianism, then, yes, you are a stupid fucking chud.

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            3 days ago

            So basically your brainwashed red team vs blue team logic is when they do its a problem but when you do its fine lol

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              2 days ago

              No, that’s quite literally the opposite of why people have an issue with this.

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          3 days ago

          Oh yes, maduro is the worst, and good riddance. Ever heard of doing the right thing for wrong reasons?

          And that is if this was about removing a dictator and replacing him with democracy. However, this wasn’t an action to remove a dictator. This was an action to remove a dictator who wasn’t obeying trump. They’ll just replace this dictator with another one that will obey trump.

          This is ALL about oil, again. At least last time the US government did the entire dance of pretending there were weapons of mass destruction, at least they went through the senate, yadda yadda, and at least there was some agreement that Saddam was an international problem.

          The US is now threatening Greenland and Mexico next, and Canada surely hasn’t heard the last 51st state joke…

          You really don’t see what the fuck is happening here?

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      3 days ago

      You cana still do the right thing for the wrong reason

      The US isn’t there to liberate these poor people, they’ll just install the next puppet dictator who will be even worse, while they suck the country dry

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      4 days ago

      Because they are hoping the next corrupt government will be better than the last corrupt government. This has been south America for the last 100 years and north America for the last 50.

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      4 days ago

      I’m confused as well. I thought Maduro was very very obviously and unanimously considered to be a bad guy. It’s a little shocking, but surprising that anyone in the western world would be upset about it.

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        Because of the precedent it sets. Just like Trump’s deportation of immigrants without due process, sure, IF the immigrant in question actually IS a dangerous criminal, it works out fine. But by normalizing the power without due process and checks and balances you virtually guarantee that eventually the power will be used against someone who ISN’T “unanimously considered to be a bad guy”.

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          4 days ago

          What has been set? We just pretending this is the first time the USA did something like this lol I remember writing a book report about Noriega getting snatched the same way. We literally just seen this happen to Saddam on tv

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            Yes, but it’s like an addict quitting their addiction… the longer they go since the last time they did it, the more people can plausibly hope that they’ve kicked the habit.

            Now the clock is reset. I don’t believe it is impossible for a government or a people to grow, change, and improve over time without the need for a massive, violent upheaval to force it, but it’s EXTREMELY easy to show that they have NOT, and we got to see that today.

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        3 days ago

        Your news media does not exist to inform you. That seeming obvious and unanimously held impressions is their purpose. There’s 2 problems.

        1. US committing any evil it wants.
        2. Can a communist sharing of resource wealth among the people be a legitimate preference even if CIA would prefer that its state champions be able to steal the resources without local taxes/royalties, and then the CIA disapproving of that preference sufficient to conclude the government illegitimate?

        Certainly a 3rd problem would be that CIA aligned media creating your impressions, and normalizing the operation.