Hi, all.

I’m a little late to getting the newsletter out this morning so I’m sending this recording out first. If you didn’t get a chance to watch this interview yesterday I highly recommend doing so. is a super smart and compelling guy, and our conversation—which covered the current DHS bill, the history of civics education in the US, and whether our calls make a difference (spoiler alert: they do!)—was just terrific!

Enjoy, and if you learn something from this discussion please consider sharing it and, of course, subscribing to Ben’s newsletter !

Talk again soon.

Jess

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