Can I move my family into your house and attack family members of yours and drive them out whenever we want to take over an additional room, sending you to live in the basement now? Shoot your kids for sport even when you’re in your own part? Set fire to parts of the house and take your belongings any time we want? And then say we’re “inching towards” leaving you alone in the portion of the house that’s left (while we wander through it at random at all times), and so you’re not allowed to do anything to us in the meantime? Get the fuck out of here with all this fuckin’ nonsense.
“I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?” -David Ben-Gurion
There’s been attempts toward peace in the past. The big one was when Gaza was given autonomy to elect their own government … and they chose Hamas. Yes Israel generally acts horribly, but it’s been both Palestinians and Israelis that have scuttled efforts to peace in the past,
That’s not what he said, although it’s very similar. What was it about Israel’s existence specifically that he identified as the problem? I’m not sure why you wouldn’t know this, he was extremely specific about it and I just quoted it to you.
Edit: I’ll give an even broader hint. If Israel existed in Africa, would that be okay with them? What about if Israel existed in Thailand? Would that be okay? So what is it specifically that the Palestinians have a problem with, about its existence, that makes it different from those specific scenarios?
Fuckin “inched towards” what?
Can I move my family into your house and attack family members of yours and drive them out whenever we want to take over an additional room, sending you to live in the basement now? Shoot your kids for sport even when you’re in your own part? Set fire to parts of the house and take your belongings any time we want? And then say we’re “inching towards” leaving you alone in the portion of the house that’s left (while we wander through it at random at all times), and so you’re not allowed to do anything to us in the meantime? Get the fuck out of here with all this fuckin’ nonsense.
“I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?” -David Ben-Gurion
There’s been attempts toward peace in the past. The big one was when Gaza was given autonomy to elect their own government … and they chose Hamas. Yes Israel generally acts horribly, but it’s been both Palestinians and Israelis that have scuttled efforts to peace in the past,
What do you think Ben-Gurion’s diagnosis would be, as to why attempts towards peace in the past have failed?
Dunno. He might support the current efforts, as you pointed out - he understood that Palestinians would never accept Israel’s existence.
That’s not what he said, although it’s very similar. What was it about Israel’s existence specifically that he identified as the problem? I’m not sure why you wouldn’t know this, he was extremely specific about it and I just quoted it to you.
Edit: I’ll give an even broader hint. If Israel existed in Africa, would that be okay with them? What about if Israel existed in Thailand? Would that be okay? So what is it specifically that the Palestinians have a problem with, about its existence, that makes it different from those specific scenarios?