Politicians and business leaders alike punched back, with California Gov. Gavin Newsom saying governments need to “wake up to the reality.”

By Jenni Doering and Aynsley O’Neill

From our collaborating partner Living on Earth, public radio’s environmental news magazine, a conversation between producers Jenni Doering and Aynsley O’Neill about President Donald Trump’s speech to the U.N. General Assembly. The conversation has been edited for length and clarity.

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