As part of its secret “autopsy” report on how former Vice President Kamala Harris lost the 2024 presidential election to President Donald Trump, the Democratic National Committee (DNC) now seems to concede that the Biden administration’s support for Israel amid its continued genocide against Palestinians in Gaza played a large role in her losing votes, sources with knowledge of the report’s…
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How’s shaming voters working out for you?
Different people have different ethical systems. Utilitarianism is not the only valid ethical framework. Have some respect for others and stop belittling others deeply held moral beliefs. Some view elections as outcome-driven. Some view voting as an act of personal endorsement.
Don’t be a smug asshole and pretend your values are the only valid ones. Progressives are supposed to be open minded and respectful of diversity.
For many people, voting is an endorsement. For many, it is morally wrong to vote for an evil person, even if they are the lesser evil. Voting is a personal thing, and people use different ethical calculus.
Ironically, you are literally using the same ethical systems that the Nazis did. For them, the ends justified the means. That’s how they could justify doing medical experiments on prisoners. They said that yes, people would suffer, but more people would be helped than harmed. A respect for persons ethical framework would instead say, damn the final outcome, good ends don’t justify evil means. Hell, even the Holocaust was justified based on being the lesser evil, as it in theory would prevent millennia of future racial conflict.
You have far more in common with MAGA than you think. They also justify all their cruelty based on providing the greatest good to the greatest number. Immigrants need to be kicked out, as a racially homogenous society is more peaceful and prosperous. Trans people need to be exterminated, as gender variance causes all kinds of social ills. Voting needs to be heavily restricted, as crazy people are electing the wrong candidates. Utilitarianism is a fundamentally fascist philosophy. The individual does not matter, only the greatest good for the greatest number. If murdering a million saves a billion, it’s the right thing to do.
I’d pat you on the back but your horse is to tall.
Literally. They spent well over a year attacking and shaming anyone that called for solidarity to defeat trump. Everyone is free to vote however they want. But the hypocrisy of them criticizing this.
It was gifted to me by Vermin Supreme. :D
Dunno, we should be the ones asking you. Oh the irony! Coming from a bluemagite like yourself. Pot calling the kettle black.
If someone votes their conscience that’s between them and their deity. That much we agree on. If someone however, campaigns in self sabatoge, attacking those asking for solidarity to defeated an open fascist. Screeching “BlUeMaGa!” or “GeNoCiDe SuPpOrTeR!”. IE you.
It is likely that every Republican candidate for the rest of our lives will be a fascist. Ultimately Democratic insiders control the primary. They are after all a private club legally speaking. That means that sometimes, you have to be willing to punish your own side at the general. Otherwise the insiders have no reason to change the direction of the party. Again, it’s fascist Republicans from here on out. What you are advocating for is for us to permanently refuse to ever hold the Democrats accountable when they abandon their base. Again, there will never be an election in our lifetime where the opponent isn’t a literal fascist. This is just the new normal.